Discussion on tachyons

[Dekota Tzederbaum]

I think it's time to have a rational discussion of tachyonic
10.13189/ujpa.2023.170101 present a proof that tachyons, even if they
existed, could not violate causality by sending a message into the past.
Some of the salient points in that paper are listed below.
(1) The four-momentum formalism (4MF) isn't immune from criticism
because it's declared to be a "definition. Nature doesn't care about
what humans assert.

idiot, you don't undrestand anything. If "tachyons" doesn't, so doesn't
light, hence photons. You don't undrestand Nature and manifolds.

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Post by Dekota Tzederbaum

I think it's time to have a rational discussion of tachyonic
10.13189/ujpa.2023.170101 present a proof that tachyons, even if they
existed, could not violate causality by sending a message into the past.
Some of the salient points in that paper are listed below.
(1) The four-momentum formalism (4MF) isn't immune from criticism
because it's declared to be a "definition. Nature doesn't care about
what humans assert.

idiot, you don't undrestand anything. If "tachyons" doesn't, so doesn't
light, hence photons. You don't undrestand Nature and manifolds.

They would arrive from the future... and they are not.
They are a mathematical flunk... No negative Gamma
They have never existed. And never will.
How have we measured them to say they exist?

[Jim Pennino]

Post by ***@gmail.com
They would arrive from the future... and they are not.
They are a mathematical flunk... No negative Gamma
They have never existed. And never will.
How have we measured them to say they exist?

Confused moron babble.

[Derick Belohvostikov]

Would traveling at c not give infinite kinetic energy?

That's what theory says and what experiment confirms.

Then why does it not happen? Every photon would have it.
But clearly they do not.

E^2 = p^2c^2 + m^2c^4.
m = 0 for photons so E = pc. m > 0 for normal particles and p = mv/(1 -
v^2/c^2)^0.5, so particles where m <> 0 can't travel at c.

nonsense. Dr. Mitchel is correct again. A particle with ZERO mass is
absurd. Even photons have mass. A particle with zero mass would imply
existence 𝗼𝗳_𝗻𝗲𝗴𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲_𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀, which is absurd. Think again.

𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮'𝘀_𝗧𝗼𝗽_𝗧𝗮𝗹𝗸𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘄_𝗛𝗼𝘀𝘁,_𝗝𝗲𝘄𝗶𝘀𝗵_𝗦𝗼𝗹𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗲𝘃_𝗗𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗼𝘆𝘀_𝗚𝘂𝗲𝘀𝘁_𝗪𝗵𝗼_𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝘀_𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹
https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/S874WW8JtP4w/

[Chris M. Thomasson]

Post by Derick Belohvostikov

Would traveling at c not give infinite kinetic energy?

That's what theory says and what experiment confirms.

Then why does it not happen? Every photon would have it.
But clearly they do not.

E^2 = p^2c^2 + m^2c^4.
m = 0 for photons so E = pc. m > 0 for normal particles and p = mv/(1 -
v^2/c^2)^0.5, so particles where m <> 0 can't travel at c.

nonsense. Dr. Mitchel is correct again. A particle with ZERO mass is
absurd. Even photons have mass.

Are you sure about photons having mass?


A particle with zero mass would imply

Post by Derick Belohvostikov
existence 𝗼𝗳_𝗻𝗲𝗴𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲_𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀, which is absurd. Think again.
𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮'𝘀_𝗧𝗼𝗽_𝗧𝗮𝗹𝗸𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘄_𝗛𝗼𝘀𝘁,_𝗝𝗲𝘄𝗶𝘀𝗵_𝗦𝗼𝗹𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗲𝘃_𝗗𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗼𝘆𝘀_𝗚𝘂𝗲𝘀𝘁_𝗪𝗵𝗼_𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝘀_𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹
https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/S874WW8JtP4w/

[Emmett Balakleevski]

Post by Chris M. Thomasson

Post by Derick Belohvostikov
nonsense. Dr. Mitchel is correct again. A particle with ZERO mass is
absurd. Even photons have mass.

Are you sure about photons having mass?

Of course he's sure
“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always
so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.”
-- Bertrand Russell

Post by Chris M. Thomasson

Post by Derick Belohvostikov
A particle with zero mass would imply existence 𝗼𝗳_𝗻𝗲𝗴𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲_𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀,
which is absurd. Think again.

The existence of a particle with zero mass does NOT imply the existence
of particles with negative mass.

you don't undrestand the relationship because you are an 𝘂𝗻𝘀𝗸𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗱 𝗮𝗻𝗱
𝘂𝗻𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝗱𝗶𝗼𝘁. Moreover, you can't even assign energy to a particle with
zero mass. A true scientist would know that the photon has a𝗻 𝗶𝗻𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗶𝘁𝗲𝘀𝗶𝗺𝗮𝗹
𝗻𝗼𝗻_𝘇𝗲𝗿𝗼 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀.

Highlights
Mathematically the rest mass of photons is complex number when comes
in contact with the surface of matter.
Mass depends upon scalar curvature of the surface of matter and
wavelength of the photon.
Photon itself reveals illusion posing with mass on the surface of
matter because of wave-particle duality.

[Electo Dankuldinets]

“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are
always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.”
-- Bertrand Russell

Is Mr. Russell sure about that? -- Rich

Good point!
“‎When you point your finger at someone, anyone, it is often a moment of
judgement. We point our fingers when we want to scold someone, point out
what they have done wrong. But each time we point, we simultaneously
point three fingers back at ourselves.” – Christopher Pike

you see too many movies. What kind of fucking mathematician are you, not
undrestanding 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗯𝗮𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗲𝘀 and 𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗻𝘁𝘂𝗺 𝗱𝗼𝗺𝗮𝗶𝗻𝘀. What a disgrace.

[Alan Folmsbee]

Post by Electo Dankuldinets

“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are
always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.”
-- Bertrand Russell

Is Mr. Russell sure about that? -- Rich

Good point!
“‎When you point your finger at someone, anyone, it is often a moment of
judgement. We point our fingers when we want to scold someone, point out
what they have done wrong. But each time we point, we simultaneously
point three fingers back at ourselves.” – Christopher Pike

you see too many movies. What kind of fucking mathematician are you, not
undrestanding 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗯𝗮𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗲𝘀 and 𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗻𝘁𝘂𝗺 𝗱𝗼𝗺𝗮𝗶𝗻𝘀. What a disgrace.

clustered regularly interspaced short palindromic repeats (crispr)

If you could travel to Mars in a ship at speed 2c, you would only get a
view of Earth, through a telescope, showing what it looked like a few
minutes before. But a modern telescope is so blurred, the "past time"
that you would see is limited to past hurricane positions and big things like that.

[Arindam Banerjee]

Post by Alan Folmsbee

Post by Electo Dankuldinets

“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are
always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.”
-- Bertrand Russell

Is Mr. Russell sure about that? -- Rich

Good point!
“‎When you point your finger at someone, anyone, it is often a moment of
judgement. We point our fingers when we want to scold someone, point out
what they have done wrong. But each time we point, we simultaneously
point three fingers back at ourselves.” – Christopher Pike

you see too many movies. What kind of fucking mathematician are you, not
undrestanding 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗯𝗮𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗲𝘀 and 𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗻𝘁𝘂𝗺 𝗱𝗼𝗺𝗮𝗶𝗻𝘀. What a disgrace.

clustered regularly interspaced short palindromic repeats (crispr)
If you could travel to Mars in a ship at speed 2c, you would only get a
view of Earth, through a telescope, showing what it looked like a few
minutes before.

Yes, yes. That should be easily possible with my FTL motors. I would say, within 40-50 years. Don't think I will live to see that.


But a modern telescope is so blurred, the "past time"

Post by Alan Folmsbee
that you would see is limited to past hurricane positions and big things like that.

Uber map told me that our car was 50m away when it was only 25m away.

[Evin Lukha Bereznikov]

On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 7:20:14 PM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:>

Would traveling at c not give infinite kinetic energy?

That's what theory says and what experiment confirms.

Then why does it not happen?
Every photon would have it.
But clearly they do not.
Only a finite energy manifests as real gary...
How does an atom absorb infinite energy?
Mitchell Raemsch

Photons have no mass, Mitch, so they never have infinite energy, even at
speed c. Atoms have mass, so they can never be accelerated to c.

once again, there is no "zero" in this universe, me friend. You too are
extremely hard to convince. Here we go.

𝗨𝗦_𝘀𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗲_𝗯𝗮𝗻𝘀_𝗧𝗿𝘂𝗺𝗽_𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺_𝗯𝗮𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘁
Colorado judges claimed the former president committed “insurrection”
https://r%74.com/news/589354-trump-colorado-ballot-ban/

Welcome to democracy US style. Make an allegation and get rid of your
major contender.

Another proof that USA is a dictatorship and a Banana Republic.... Not a
surprise.

𝗡𝗢_𝗖𝗢𝗨𝗡𝗧𝗥𝗬_𝗙𝗢𝗥_𝗢𝗟𝗗_𝗠𝗘𝗡
https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/t3r0nb3y5iFy

𝗙𝗟𝗢𝗢𝗗_𝗢𝗙_𝗡𝗔𝗠𝗜𝗡𝗚_𝗜𝗡_𝗧𝗛𝗘_𝗖𝗜𝗧𝗬_𝗖𝗢𝗨𝗡𝗖𝗜𝗟_𝗢𝗙_𝗦𝗔𝗖𝗥𝗔𝗠𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗢
https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/DlRrcqrrBHZT

[Fransisco Gribo]

They're not just "my misconceptions." I'm merely the messenger of what
others have claimed. Dono is too focused on labeling me a "crank"
rather than expanding his own hermetically-closed mind to let in some
uncertainty.
"What is not surrounded by uncertainty cannot be the truth."
-- Richard Feynman
"Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. -- Voltaire

why are you so certain, then, wasting your seed??

𝗙𝗼𝗿𝗲𝗶𝗴𝗻_𝗻𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀_𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱_𝘀𝗮𝗻𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻_𝗨𝗸𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗶𝗮𝗻_𝗱𝗿𝗮𝗳𝘁_𝗱𝗼𝗱𝗴𝗲𝗿𝘀_–_𝗭𝗲𝗹𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗸𝘆_𝗮𝗶𝗱𝗲
Men who fled abroad should have their residence permits revoked if they
evade service at home, Mikhail Podoliak has said
https://r%74.com/ru%73%73ia/589536-foreign-nations-sanction-ukrainian-draft-dodgers/

the 𝗸𝗵𝗮𝘇𝗮𝗿_𝗴𝗼𝘆𝘀 of ukurina killed already everybody, now they need new
souls to kill. Unbelievable the impertinence. These criminals are just as
guilty like those doing 𝗴𝗲𝗻𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗱𝗲 𝗶𝗻 𝗣𝗮𝗹𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗲.

The Ukrainian slavers are running short of victims.

This guy needs a good beating all the way to the front!

No they should be awarded medals for being sane and not wanting to die for
a bunch of Nazi's and their Western handlers.

[Brouce Mihalenkov]

Il giorno domenica 24 dicembre 2023 alle -0800 (PST) Dono.

(9) Tachyons with u > c^2/v can be detected by moving the receiver
toward the tachyon source such that u' < c^2/v, which converts the
situation to Method II.

Well, their ("tachyons") energy jumps from +infinity to -infinity. This
is unphysical .

you both, unbelievable wrong. There is no -infinity in physics, in this
universe, but only infinity. You guys from capitalist america, are totally
unprepared and unqualified. I just got depressed.

𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹_𝗸𝗶𝗹𝗹𝘀_𝘀𝗲𝗻𝗶𝗼𝗿_𝗜𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗶𝗮𝗻_𝗴𝗲𝗻𝗲𝗿𝗮𝗹_𝗶𝗻_𝗦𝘆𝗿𝗶𝗮_𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗸𝗲
“The barbaric Zionist regime will pay” for the death of Seyed Razi
Mousavi, Iran’s Revolutionary Guards have said
https://r%74.com/news/589674-israel-airstrike-syria-iran-general/

the 𝗸𝗵𝗮𝘇𝗮𝗿_𝗴𝗼𝘆𝘀 of polakia are going to suck large dicks, they miscall it
for 𝗮𝗻𝘁𝗶𝘀𝗲𝗺𝗶𝘁𝗶𝘀𝗺.

Those 𝗸𝗵𝗮𝘇𝗮𝗿_𝗴𝗼𝘆𝘀 don't realize fully that Iran can hit israel whenever it
wants from its own territory. I am afraid the 𝗸𝗵𝗮𝘇𝗮𝗿_𝗴𝗼𝘆_𝗼𝗳_𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗮𝗸𝗶𝗮 have to
prepare a new exodus, as losing the war against Hamas wants to escalate
into the whole region. The Samson option.

American imperialism lies in Israel. Once Israel is gone then America will
just become like a fat, shouty, inadequate version of Canada.

[James Mee'k, Attorney at law]

Then why does it not happen? Every photon would have it.
But clearly they do not. Only a finite energy manifests as real gary...
How does an atom absorb infinite energy? Mitchell Raemsch

There's an example of a question from a great physicist: assume
infinite energy in a photon and then ask why an atom can have infinite
energy. I'm amazed at the lack of interest in the subject of this thread

capitalist america, like a fart smelling eggs or kraut, but you never ate
eggs and kraut.

𝗔𝗻𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿_𝗨𝗦_𝗯𝗿𝗶𝗱𝗴𝗲_𝗵𝗶𝘁_𝗯𝘆_𝗮_𝘃𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗲𝗹_(𝗩𝗜𝗗𝗘𝗢)
A cargo vessel damaged the supports of a bridge over the Arkansas River
less than a week after a deadly incident in Baltimore
https://www.%72t.com/news/595176-ship-hits-arkansas-river-bridge/

They'll print the money in no time

The U.S. will say “Russia did it”.

Before driving across a bridge, check if any ship or others in the water
nearby.

I had a guy on fbibook say bridges get hit all the time & I replied
something like. One thousands train derailments in usa_fascistland,...on
average! Man, they are a pretend first world country.

they were just testing if this bridge could withstand

Hilarious that the estimate on the Baltimore bridge reconstruction is 4-5
years. Were it a bridge in China they’d have thousands of workers and
engineers already crawling over the site and traffic with cargo would be
flying out of Baltimore along a better bridge in 4-5 months. Correct, if
not quicker.

One less place for the homeless.

Complete and utter incompetence. Signs of collapsing shithole