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Post by NadegdaTime to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes,
melt!
We will settle for nothing less than full equality.
You already have full equality, but it's your nature to spend
your entire life whining that you don't. Feminists always think
they have to "prove" something.
I am a feminist but I don't believe I have anything to *prove*.
It just IS.
What about men's equality? Do you think we never
Post by Checkmateget treated unfairly?
Sometimes they do and that needs to stop as well.
Females think they can physically assault a man,
Post by Checkmateand they'll be protected against him defending himself because
they're "the weaker sex". You don't think a lot of females use
that to their advantage every day?
My brand of feminism is different than what you perceive it to be.
I believe that no one should be able to assault anyone without
repercussions.
We're expected to open doors for you because
Post by Checkmateyou're females, and presumably either can't manage to open a
door for yourselves, or think you're owed some ritualistic
ass-kissing by virtue of your sex. Even then, some of you get
offended if a man does open a door for you, when it shouldn't be
a big deal one way or the other.
Indeed. *I* open and hold doors for whoever is behind me; be they
male or female. No difference. And if someone holds a door open
for me, I smile and say thank you. That's how I was raised. ANd
I've never seen anyone be offended by someone holding a door open
for them.
Post by CheckmateGenerally speaking, nature made men have a stronger sex drive
than women, so women use that as a way to manipulate men.
Some women, please and I decry that sort of behavior.
In turn, men are
Post by Checkmatephysically stronger, and sometimes they take advantage of that.
As they shouldn't.
You
Post by Checkmatewant to talk about "equality"? Tall people generally make more
money than shorter people. Pretty girls get jobs as news
anchors and many other roles, ugly ones don't. You can't have a
discussion about "equality" between the sexes without
acknowledging that nature gave us certain fundamental
differences,
and every living thing on this planet takes advantage of the
skill set available to them.
Equality under the law negates the above, if used properly.
Nature gave women
Post by Checkmatesome advantages, and also gave men some advantages. That's
life, and we either acknowledge that "equality" will always be
conditional, or we make a big fucking deal out of it like you
seem to enjoy doing. Good luck with that...
I have an will continue to push for equality under the law. It's
the *right* thing to do.
I've yet to figure out in just what ways The Kensinads isn't being
treated equally now. According to "both" of them, they have good jobs.
The Nads half allegedly drives an expensive Tesla, so I'm at a loss
to understand what all the bitching is about.
Did you even read that goddamn list? I posted the link twice ...
Of course not. I don't go to your bullshit links.
Then you have no excuse for your ignorance.
https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/02/160-examples-of-male-privilege/
But be warned. I won't post this link a fourth time. This is your last
chance.
1) No longer true.
Balderdash.
Sorry, if the truth hurts.
Post by NadegdaPost by Scout2) More of a fault of the woman by allowing herself to be interrupted by
anyone.
BS.
On the contrary, if you refuse to be interrupted then you soon won't be.
Post by NadegdaPost by Scout3) I never assume anyone knows what they are talking about until they
show they do.
Well that's just you then.
No, actually it's most conservatives. Liberals on the other hand accept
anything said by those in authority regardless of gender. After all, look at
the lies Hillary told her supporters that they swallowed hook, line and
sinker.
Post by NadegdaPost by Scout4) Historic, no longer relevant.
Nonsense.
Reality. Deal with it.
Post by NadegdaPost by Scout5) You've clearly never heard men being grilled for their word choices
and manner of speaking.
Because it doesn't happen.
Certainly has, but since it doesn't fit your narrative....
Post by NadegdaPost by Scout6) No longer true.
Poppycock.
I love your stunning and well reasoned rebuttals.
Post by NadegdaPost by Scout7) Men are expected to give way to women. (so counter to what you're
trying to show)
Folderol.
Reality
Post by NadegdaPost by Scout8) Women can take up whatever space they like,
Hogwash.
No, truth.
Post by NadegdaPost by ScoutSocial norms are only relevant to those who chose to live their lives by
them.
Ah, so you are a sociopath. That explains much about your previous behavior
here.
No, I simply realize that social norms are social norms and not a set of
commandments.
Otherwise, you would still be wearing dresses down to the ground.
Oh, that's right, you don't want to discuss changing the social
norms.....EVEN THOUGH THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ADVOCATING.
Post by NadegdaPost by Scout9)Women dominate even when in the minority (again counter to what you're
trying to show)
Claptrap.
So you're denying your own source?
Post by NadegdaPost by Scout10) Hardly universal as I've heard men being complained at for not smiling
No one else has.
So you're now denying the claims within your own source.
Post by NadegdaPost by Scout11) Never heard of a women being called out for not shaving her
legs when traveling.
So? Your experience is hardly probative about womens' experiences,
mansplainer.
Excuse me, but what makes you think I'm a man?
What's the matter, afraid to think that a strong self assured woman wouldn't
call out your bullshit?
Post by NadegdaPost by Scout12) Buy clothes with whatever sort of pockets you want, but don't
complain if you chose the decorative pocket because you would rather
have slimming rather than functional.
Did you even *read* that item?
Yes, and fashions are driven by what sells.
Thus they get more of what it is they buy.
Post by NadegdaPost by Scout13) You have to be willing to bargain if you let yourself settle for a
higher price that is your fault, not that of your gender.
Twaddle.
Reality.
My mother could make a deal far better than anything my father could get.
You simply refuse to settle until you get the deal you want. If you do, then
the failing is your own.
Post by NadegdaPost by Scout14) Never knew a 'nerd community' yet that would turn down a women
member because of her gender.
That isn't the point.
Oh, so what actually happens in reality isn't the point?
Post by NadegdaIt's how they're treated once there.
Oh, so now it's not about being able to be an insider, but rather how they
are treated once they are an insider.
Seems to me, how they are treated is up to how they chose to be treated.
Post by NadegdaAnd as a
programmer I have direct, personal experience of this.
Maybe you need to be more assertive and refuse to allow yourself to be
defined by others.
Post by NadegdaPost by Scout15) When you stop giving birth then you might have a point.
Drivel.
Biological reality.
Post by NadegdaPost by Scout16) Clearly you've never heard a mother in law pestering her son in law
for grandchildren.
Nope, I haven't.
I have. Maybe you should get out more.
Post by NadegdaPost by Scout17) Not if you simply advance your choices. If you make your choices
about gaining attention then you will be considered an attention seeker
whatever your gender.
Bunkum.
I really am seeing your rational rebuttals.
Post by NadegdaPost by Scout18) No instead they complain you're trying to impress the women. That SO
much different.
Codswallop.
You really just can't stand anyone denying your little world of delusion and
fantasy can you?
Post by NadegdaPost by ScoutFirst Section completed.
Baloney. See above.
All sections responded to and addressed. Unlike your nonsensical one word
rebuttals.
Post by NadegdaPost by ScoutNo clear Male Privilege and those that exist do so largely because of
the way they are worded and likewise any Female privilege is ignored.
Horsefeathers!
Ok, show me any example of female privilege given in the first section, or
anywhere within the list for that matter.
Post by NadegdaPost by ScoutSuch as Men are expected to open doors for women.
Men are expected to allow women to be seated even if that means the man
has to stand Men are expected to stay behind and risk death so that
women can escape the danger first.
Women aren't expected to pay for everything on a first date.
Women aren't expected to change a flat tire.
Men are expected to work through the pregnancy of their child.
Men aren't expected to take a lot of time off from work after the birth
of their child.
Shall I go on?
<crickets>
Post by NadegdaPost by ScoutFor if you are to suggest that all "male privileges" are to be
eliminated, then we must also eliminate all "female privileges" and
somehow I bet women would not be in favor of the later.
Actually, I, for one, would. Equality means equality.
So you want to lower yourself down to the level of men?
Oh, and sorry, but equality doesn't mean being identical.
Post by NadegdaPost by ScoutLet's just accept that men and women are different and as such their
'privileges' are going to different.
Let's not.
Then you have a problem far bigger than anything I can solve or changing
social norms could do because you can't seem to accept that you're different
from a man despite the fact that you are.
So tell me, why do you want to be a man? If being a woman too much for you
to handle?
Post by NadegdaPost by ScoutI will simply note that YOU decide in manner in which you will be treated.
Horseshit. If that were true then by my decree we'd already have full
equality, no more street harassment, etc.
As I said you decide the manner in which you will be treated. First you have
to earn their respect. You can't demand respect, you have to earn it.
You seem to feel that the world exists to give you whatever you dream up to
want, and that's not the case. It never has been and never will be.
Post by NadegdaPost by ScoutSocial norms only apply if you allow them to apply.
Careful, kooky, your sociopathy is showing again.
Then you should cease to try to change the social norms and accept the "male
privilege' you bring up.
Otherwise, you're wanting to change the social norms because you refuse to
allow them to apply.
Now, who's the sociopath?
Post by NadegdaPost by ScoutThat said, courtesy, respect and helping others should always be an
acceptable social norm, even if you might see it as a 'privilege' of one
gender or the other.
What would *you* know about any of those things?
Unlike you, I experience real life and accept reality for what it is, rather
than some fanciful delusion it can never be.
Post by NadegdaPost by ScoutSo if offered such, accept it in the manner offered, just as you might
except people to be grateful to you for your courtesy, respect and
willingness to help them.
And yet, when I just offered everyone some educational information about
male privilege, was it accepted?
Since most of it isn't male privilege you simply seem to look like a nag
looking for something to complain about.
Even to the point of denying your own gender, biology, and privileges.
Instead you seem to have this notion you want to be just like a man.
To me, that is the sign of a serious mental conflict and that you have lost
your own identity.