Lowest frequency of electromagnetic radiation

Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

j***@specsol.spam.sux.com

2014-08-15 23:55:23 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

It depends on how long you are willing to wait, i.e. it takes 1 second
to detect one cycle of a 1 Hz signal and at least 2 seconds to make
sure it is actually repetitive.

As a practical matter, things like antenna size tend to limit the low
end to a few tens of Hertz.

--
Jim Pennino

Frank Colessi

2014-08-16 00:55:22 UTC

Post by j***@specsol.spam.sux.com
As a practical matter, things like antenna size tend to limit the low
end to a few tens of Hertz.

One of the purposes of the HAARP program was to investigate the
production of ultra-low frequencies (0.1 Hz) using ionospheric currents:

http://vlf.stanford.edu/research/experiments-haarp-ionospheric-heater

j***@specsol.spam.sux.com

2014-08-16 01:15:36 UTC

Post by j***@specsol.spam.sux.com
As a practical matter, things like antenna size tend to limit the low
end to a few tens of Hertz.

One of the purposes of the HAARP program was to investigate the
http://vlf.stanford.edu/research/experiments-haarp-ionospheric-heater

That was the modulation; the transmitters only went down to 2.8 MHz.

--
Jim Pennino

benj

2014-08-16 02:34:21 UTC

Post by j***@specsol.spam.sux.com
As a practical matter, things like antenna size tend to limit the low
end to a few tens of Hertz.

One of the purposes of the HAARP program was to investigate the
http://vlf.stanford.edu/research/experiments-haarp-ionospheric-heater

Yeah. Great project. Who cares if injecting megawatts into the
atmosphere causes global warming and kills us all. The important thing
is to be able to modify the climate and destroy your enemies before we
all die!

Frank Colessi

2014-08-16 03:04:44 UTC

Post by benj
Yeah. Great project. Who cares if injecting megawatts into the
atmosphere causes global warming and kills us all. The important thing
is to be able to modify the climate and destroy your enemies before we
all die!

Doing a search for HAARP brings up a flood of conspiracy-oriented
web sites that virtually drown out the serious publications. It
is almost impossible to easily find good information amid all the
trolls.

Does this sound familiar? How about Usenet and sci.physics in
particular?

You, sir, are a part of the problem. It's unfortunate that HAARP cannot
be tweaked to vaporize *you* and your ilk.

But trolls are not going to vanish. They are, sadly, an integral
part of the culture. See "Why We Can't Have Nice Things:"

http://billions-and-billions.com/2014/02/13/my-book-officially-forthcoming-with-mit-press/

Please put your brain in a jar and send it these folks. With more
research, maybe we can effect a new kind of genocide.

snoben

2014-08-16 17:56:49 UTC

Post by Frank Colessi
You, sir, are a part of the problem. It's unfortunate that HAARP cannot
be tweaked to vaporize *you* and your ilk.

what is an ilk ? like Elk ? but smaller ?

Frank Colessi

2014-08-16 18:33:00 UTC

Post by snoben
what is an ilk ? like Elk ? but smaller ?

You are an idiot, which is like an imbecile, but stupider.

j***@specsol.spam.sux.com

2014-08-16 18:33:24 UTC

Post by Frank Colessi
You, sir, are a part of the problem. It's unfortunate that HAARP cannot
be tweaked to vaporize *you* and your ilk.

what is an ilk ? like Elk ? but smaller ?

Ever head of a dictionary?

ilk - noun
1. family, class, or kind:
"he and all his ilk"

--
Jim Pennino

benj

2014-08-16 20:33:11 UTC

Post by Frank Colessi
You, sir, are a part of the problem. It's unfortunate that HAARP cannot
be tweaked to vaporize *you* and your ilk.

what is an ilk ? like Elk ? but smaller ?

Ever head of a dictionary?
ilk - noun
"he and all his ilk"

Thanks jimp! There's hope for you yet!

Zhumley

2014-08-17 20:39:02 UTC

Post by Frank Colessi
You, sir, are a part of the problem. It's unfortunate that HAARP cannot
be tweaked to vaporize *you* and your ilk.

what is an ilk ? like Elk ? but smaller ?

Ever head of a dictionary?
ilk - noun
"he and all his ilk"

Thanks jimp! There's hope for you yet!

no jimp today, he use self referencing definition

Zhumley

2014-08-17 20:37:54 UTC

Post by Frank Colessi
You, sir, are a part of the problem. It's unfortunate that HAARP cannot
be tweaked to vaporize *you* and your ilk.

what is an ilk ? like Elk ? but smaller ?

Ever head of a dictionary?
ilk - noun
"he and all his ilk"

self referencing definition ! idoitt !

Palokia - noun

1. family, class, or kind:
"he and all his palokias"

j***@specsol.spam.sux.com

2014-08-17 21:12:44 UTC

Post by Zhumley

Post by Frank Colessi
You, sir, are a part of the problem. It's unfortunate that HAARP cannot
be tweaked to vaporize *you* and your ilk.

what is an ilk ? like Elk ? but smaller ?

Ever head of a dictionary?
ilk - noun
"he and all his ilk"

self referencing definition ! idoitt !

Notice the quotes around the last sentence.

It is common for dictionaries to use the word in a sentence, something
you would know if you had ever opened a dictionary.

Illiterate clown.

--
Jim Pennino

Freda Gabriel

2014-08-18 02:19:34 UTC

Post by Zhumley
self referencing definition ! idoitt !

Notice the quotes around the last sentence.
It is common for dictionaries to use the word in a sentence, something
you would know if you had ever opened a dictionary.
Illiterate clown.

Ok, I sign you up, you now member of "ilk of Illiterate clowns" Welcome home

j***@specsol.spam.sux.com

2014-08-16 05:10:39 UTC

Post by j***@specsol.spam.sux.com
As a practical matter, things like antenna size tend to limit the low
end to a few tens of Hertz.

One of the purposes of the HAARP program was to investigate the
http://vlf.stanford.edu/research/experiments-haarp-ionospheric-heater

Paranoid drivel.

--
Jim Pennino

benj

2014-08-16 20:21:40 UTC

Post by j***@specsol.spam.sux.com
As a practical matter, things like antenna size tend to limit the low
end to a few tens of Hertz.

One of the purposes of the HAARP program was to investigate the
http://vlf.stanford.edu/research/experiments-haarp-ionospheric-heater

Paranoid drivel.

Usual loud ignorance.

benj

2014-08-17 03:56:08 UTC

Post by j***@specsol.spam.sux.com
As a practical matter, things like antenna size tend to limit the low
end to a few tens of Hertz.

One of the purposes of the HAARP program was to investigate the
http://vlf.stanford.edu/research/experiments-haarp-ionospheric-heater

Paranoid drivel.

Usual loud ignorance.

Strawman rebuttal.
Compare the field density of HAARP to the field density of the Sun.

Babble. Sun is a lot farther away. Compare stratosphere field density AT
the location AT the HAARP frequencies. Stooopid.

j***@specsol.spam.sux.com

2014-08-17 05:58:38 UTC

Post by j***@specsol.spam.sux.com
As a practical matter, things like antenna size tend to limit the low
end to a few tens of Hertz.

One of the purposes of the HAARP program was to investigate the
http://vlf.stanford.edu/research/experiments-haarp-ionospheric-heater

Paranoid drivel.

Usual loud ignorance.

Strawman rebuttal.
Compare the field density of HAARP to the field density of the Sun.

Babble. Sun is a lot farther away. Compare stratosphere field density AT
the location AT the HAARP frequencies. Stooopid.

That is EXACTLY what I meant, kook boy.

And what do we find, kook boy?

--
Jim Pennino

HVAC

2014-08-17 16:03:27 UTC

Compare the field density of HAARP to the field density of the Sun.

Babble. Sun is a lot farther away. Compare stratosphere field density AT
the location AT the HAARP frequencies. Stooopid.

BJ- I swear to you that HAARP is strictly a tool of science.
But consider this. HAarp and HVAC both start with an H.

Obviously this cannot be a coincidence.

HAIL HYDRA!

--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl

benj

2014-08-17 16:32:12 UTC

Post by HVAC

Compare the field density of HAARP to the field density of the Sun.

Babble. Sun is a lot farther away. Compare stratosphere field density AT
the location AT the HAARP frequencies. Stooopid.

BJ- I swear to you that HAARP is strictly a tool of science.
But consider this. HAarp and HVAC both start with an H.
Obviously this cannot be a coincidence.

Well SHIT! There was no proof of HAARP being some black project UNTIL
NOW! I'll have to revise my paranoia.

Post by HVAC
HAIL HYDRA!

"overlords" always take a multi-pronged approach to destroying something.

Zhumley

2014-08-17 20:42:10 UTC

Compare the field density of HAARP to the field density of the Sun.

Babble. Sun is a lot farther away. Compare stratosphere field density AT
the location AT the HAARP frequencies. Stooopid.

BJ- I swear to you that HAARP is strictly a tool of science.
But consider this. HAarp and HVAC both start with an H.
Obviously this cannot be a coincidence.

Well SHIT! There was no proof of HAARP being some black project

Black Projects like in Queens, NY ?

is HAARP to burn out Black Projects ?

HAARP is Hispanic American Association of Retired Peoples

HVAC

2014-08-17 21:05:09 UTC

Compare the field density of HAARP to the field density of the Sun.

Babble. Sun is a lot farther away. Compare stratosphere field density AT
the location AT the HAARP frequencies. Stooopid.

BJ- I swear to you that HAARP is strictly a tool of science.
But consider this. HAarp and HVAC both start with an H.
Obviously this cannot be a coincidence.

Well SHIT! There was no proof of HAARP being some black project

Black Projects like in Queens, NY ?
is HAARP to burn out Black Projects ?
HAARP is Hispanic American Association of Retired Peoples

Hey hey!

--
Cut off one head, two more shall take it's place.
HAIL HYDRA!

benj

2014-08-18 04:50:17 UTC

Compare the field density of HAARP to the field density of the Sun.

Babble. Sun is a lot farther away. Compare stratosphere field density AT
the location AT the HAARP frequencies. Stooopid.

BJ- I swear to you that HAARP is strictly a tool of science.
But consider this. HAarp and HVAC both start with an H.
Obviously this cannot be a coincidence.

Well SHIT! There was no proof of HAARP being some black project

Black Projects like in Queens, NY ?
is HAARP to burn out Black Projects ?
HAARP is Hispanic American Association of Retired Peoples

Hey hey!

Nice, "pro work" ,eh, Harlow?

(especially note how my sentence was "professionally trimmed" to reverse
it's meaning! Nice! )

S***@hotmail.com

2014-08-17 19:32:00 UTC

I wonder why the effect are of the generation of a)
HOH and b)
OCO, to power h.a.a.r.p, are;
I believe that the generators are nearby

Post by benj
Usual loud ignorance.

Richard Tobin

2014-08-16 13:44:00 UTC

Post by benj
Yeah. Great project. Who cares if injecting megawatts into the
atmosphere causes global warming and kills us all.

That doesn't sound very likely. The radiation from the sun reaching
the atmosphere is about 1.4 GW/km^2, so "megawatts" is not much to
worry about.

-- Richard

Y.Porat

2014-08-16 01:05:45 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

It depends on how long you are willing to wait, i.e. it takes 1 second
to detect one cycle of a 1 Hz signal and at least 2 seconds to make
sure it is actually repetitive.
As a practical matter, things like antenna size tend to limit the low
end to a few tens of Hertz.

============================
wrong !!!

there are frequencies that are shorter than
one cycle per second
or
thre are frequencies of less than
f = one per second
or
f = 1 is not a limit of nature

Y.Porat
=========================================

Post by j***@specsol.spam.sux.com
--
Jim Pennino

j***@specsol.spam.sux.com

2014-08-16 01:19:02 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

It depends on how long you are willing to wait, i.e. it takes 1 second
to detect one cycle of a 1 Hz signal and at least 2 seconds to make
sure it is actually repetitive.
As a practical matter, things like antenna size tend to limit the low
end to a few tens of Hertz.

============================
wrong !!!
there are frequencies that are shorter than
one cycle per second

I never said there wasn't, you babbling idiot.

<snip incoherent babble>

--
Jim Pennino

Y.Porat

2014-08-16 05:48:05 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

It depends on how long you are willing to wait, i.e. it takes 1 second
to detect one cycle of a 1 Hz signal and at least 2 seconds to make
sure it is actually repetitive.
As a practical matter, things like antenna size tend to limit the low
end to a few tens of Hertz.

============================
wrong !!!
there are frequencies that are shorter than
one cycle per second

I never said there wasn't, you babbling idiot.
<snip incoherent babble>

Post by Y.Porat
--

Jim Pennino

===========================
little blockhead

there are frequency that are much longer than
onw second per cycle !!

E=hf
is not the formula for the single smallest photon energy
see

E photon min =hf times n
while
0> n <<<< 1.000000
---------------------------

did you ever see that formula ??
do you understand it ??
and from whom did you see it??

Y.Porat
=======================================

j***@specsol.spam.sux.com

2014-08-16 17:01:59 UTC

Post by Y.Porat
there are frequency that are much longer than
onw second per cycle !!

I never said there wasn't, you babbling idiot.

--
Jim Pennino

Timo

2014-08-16 00:17:25 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

Like Jim said, it depends on how long you are prepared to wait. Below 100Hz is used for communication with submarines. Below 20Hz is used for sensing applications. Frequencies of a few hertz have been detected from natural sources. You can go much lower than that for artificial sources (and then you're usually in the near-field and some people will say that near-field isn't "radiation", so it does depend somewhat on what you mean by "radiation").

szczepan bialek

2014-08-16 08:27:43 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

Like Jim said, it depends on how long you are prepared to wait. Below 100Hz
is used for communication with submarines. Below 20Hz is used for sensing
applications. Frequencies of a few hertz have been detected from natural
sources. You can go much lower than that for artificial sources (and then
you're usually in the near-field and some people will say that near-field
isn't "radiation", so it does depend somewhat on what you mean by
"radiation").

"Below 100Hz is used for communication with submarines. Below 20Hz is used
for sensing applications. Frequencies of a few hertz have been detected from
natural sources".
The above are the radio waves.

Could you tell us what is the lowest detectable frequency of
electromagnetic INDUCTION?
S*

Y.Porat

2014-08-16 12:18:49 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic
radiation?

Like Jim said, it depends on how long you are prepared to wait. Below 100Hz
is used for communication with submarines. Below 20Hz is used for sensing
applications. Frequencies of a few hertz have been detected from natural
sources. You can go much lower than that for artificial sources (and then
you're usually in the near-field and some people will say that near-field
isn't "radiation", so it does depend somewhat on what you mean by
"radiation").

"Below 100Hz is used for communication with submarines. Below 20Hz is used
for sensing applications. Frequencies of a few hertz have been detected from
natural sources".
The above are the radio waves.
Could you tell us what is the lowest detectable frequency of
electromagnetic INDUCTION?
S*

=======================
no matter which one of them as long as they are Em waves
with photon energy!!
so
do you understand the meaning of the new formula :

E photon min =hf times n
while
0> n <<<< 1.00000 ??????
---------------------------------
do you know what is that formula tell you about
minimal photon Energy ??
ie ]
longest photon wave
**smallest** photon energy **

it IS MUCH LONGER ( BIGGER) WAVE LENGTH ( THAN
GIVEN BY JUST E=hf WHILE f =ONE SECOND !!

iow
and smaller frequency than that in one second
that is the commonly considered to be the smallest time
it is done
(i intentionally said here 'smallest(not biggest )
frequency
because smallest frequency
is BIGGEST (LONGEST WAVE LENGTH ) !!

TIA
Y.Porat
====================================

szczepan bialek

2014-08-16 15:44:41 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic
radiation?

Like Jim said, it depends on how long you are prepared to wait. Below 100Hz
is used for communication with submarines. Below 20Hz is used for sensing
applications. Frequencies of a few hertz have been detected from natural
sources. You can go much lower than that for artificial sources (and then
you're usually in the near-field and some people will say that near-field
isn't "radiation", so it does depend somewhat on what you mean by
"radiation").

"Below 100Hz is used for communication with submarines. Below 20Hz is used
for sensing applications. Frequencies of a few hertz have been detected from
natural sources".
The above are the radio waves.
Could you tell us what is the lowest detectable frequency of
electromagnetic INDUCTION?
S*

=======================
no matter which one of them as long as they are Em waves
with photon energy!!
so
E photon min =hf times n
while
0> n <<<< 1.00000 ??????
---------------------------------
do you know what is that formula tell you about
minimal photon Energy ??
ie ]
longest photon wave
**smallest** photon energy **
it IS MUCH LONGER ( BIGGER) WAVE LENGTH ( THAN
GIVEN BY JUST E=hf WHILE f =ONE SECOND !!
iow
and smaller frequency than that in one second
that is the commonly considered to be the smallest time
it is done
(i intentionally said here 'smallest(not biggest )
frequency
because smallest frequency
is BIGGEST (LONGEST WAVE LENGTH ) !!
TIA
Y.Porat
====================================

Are for you the near-field and the far-field the same?
S*

Y.Porat

2014-08-16 18:19:23 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic
radiation?

Like Jim said, it depends on how long you are prepared to wait. Below
100Hz
is used for communication with submarines. Below 20Hz is used for
sensing
applications. Frequencies of a few hertz have been detected from natural
sources. You can go much lower than that for artificial sources (and
then
you're usually in the near-field and some people will say that
near-field
isn't "radiation", so it does depend somewhat on what you mean by
"radiation").

"Below 100Hz is used for communication with submarines. Below 20Hz is
used
for sensing applications. Frequencies of a few hertz have been detected
from
natural sources".
The above are the radio waves.
Could you tell us what is the lowest detectable frequency of
electromagnetic INDUCTION?
S*

Are for you the near-field and the far-field the same?
S*

========================
what do you mean by
near or far field ???
TIA
Y.Porat
==================================

szczepan bialek

2014-08-17 07:18:25 UTC

Post by szczepan bialek
Are for you the near-field and the far-field the same?
S*

========================
what do you mean by
near or far field ???

" Near-field strength decreases with distance, whereas far-field strength
decreases with the inverse square of the distance."

"The radiation zone is important because far-fields in general fall off in
amplitude by 1?r. This means that the total energy per unit area at a
distance r is proportional to 1?r2. The area of the sphere is proportional
to r2, so the total energy passing through the sphere is constant. This
means that the far-field energy actually escapes to infinite distance (it
radiates)."

"The interaction with the medium (e.g. body capacitance) can cause energy to
deflect back to the source, in the case of the reactive near-field".

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field

Are the EM induction and the radiation the same?
S*

Y.Porat

2014-08-17 11:24:33 UTC

Post by szczepan bialek
Are for you the near-field and the far-field the same?
S*

========================
what do you mean by
near or far field ???

=======================
thanks !!
but we have a communication problem (:-)

we dont speak the same ''physical language ''!!

you are actually dealing with ** huge bundle of photons !!
THAT MAKES SORT OF A WAVE something like a wave of water in the sea !!
that is actually composed of a huge number
of water molecules
while i am looking (using the sea metaphor)
about the single entity - the single molecule of water
and its properties and behavior mass
energy etc etc
------------------------
so my single photon energy is ways
much less than defined by the common formula
for the ''single photon energy ''
my understanding and finding is that the real single phootn energy
has nothing to do with one second definition

mind you
E=hf is just **one** second defined
or an integer multiplier of it
my finding is that
photons and photon energy is defined by the following formula
==============================
E photon minimum = hf times n
while

0 >n <<<<< 1.00000 !!
====================================
i was looking for the real SINGLE PHOTON
ie
the real single photon is done in much much less tha one second !!
as defined above qualitatively
later i equated that n to
The scalr part of Planck time
why ?
because that time is the smallest laps of time we know
in physics
so
you get for the smallest photon energy ....
dont be shocked
about exp -79 joule !!!
it means that the real single photon
will never be detected !!
not to mansion measured !!!
so that is why may be practically it is zero
but not theoretically
i proved as wellthat
THE PHOTON HAS MASS - THE ONLY MASS
(IE NOT RELATIVISTIC MASS - JUST MASS

about exp -90Kilogram !!!
the mass (only mass )
of the photon is hidden in the
h constant of Planck !!

and that is a revolution in physics
because
no more virtual particles ""without mas""
etc etc
no Higgs that has to give mass to particles
because it is the energy that does it
etc etc etc

TIA
Y.Porat
====================================

Post by szczepan bialek
"The interaction with the medium (e.g. body capacitance) can cause energy to
deflect back to the source, in the case of the reactive near-field".
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field
Are the EM induction and the radiation the same?
S*

szczepan bialek

2014-08-17 17:13:49 UTC

Post by szczepan bialek
" Near-field strength decreases with distance, whereas far-field strength
decreases with the inverse square of the distance."
"The radiation zone is important because far-fields in general fall off in
amplitude by 1?r. This means that the total energy per unit area at a
distance r is proportional to 1?r2. The area of the sphere is
proportional
to r2, so the total energy passing through the sphere is constant. This
means that the far-field energy actually escapes to infinite distance (it
radiates)."

=======================
thanks !!
but we have a communication problem (:-)
we dont speak the same ''physical language ''!!
you are actually dealing with ** huge bundle of photons !!
THAT MAKES SORT OF A WAVE something like a wave of water in the sea !!
that is actually composed of a huge number
of water molecules
while i am looking (using the sea metaphor)
about the single entity - the single molecule of water
and its properties and behavior mass
energy etc etc
------------------------
so my single photon energy is ways
much less than defined by the common formula
for the ''single photon energy ''
my understanding and finding is that the real single phootn energy
has nothing to do with one second definition
mind you
E=hf is just **one** second defined
or an integer multiplier of it
my finding is that
photons and photon energy is defined by the following formula
==============================
E photon minimum = hf times n
while
0 >n <<<<< 1.00000 !!
====================================
i was looking for the real SINGLE PHOTON
ie
the real single photon is done in much much less tha one second !!
as defined above qualitatively
later i equated that n to
The scalr part of Planck time
why ?
because that time is the smallest laps of time we know
in physics
so
you get for the smallest photon energy ....
dont be shocked
about exp -79 joule !!!
it means that the real single photon
will never be detected !!
not to mansion measured !!!
so that is why may be practically it is zero
but not theoretically
i proved as wellthat
THE PHOTON HAS MASS - THE ONLY MASS
(IE NOT RELATIVISTIC MASS - JUST MASS
about exp -90Kilogram !!!
the mass (only mass )
of the photon is hidden in the
h constant of Planck !!
and that is a revolution in physics
because
no more virtual particles ""without mas""
etc etc
no Higgs that has to give mass to particles
because it is the energy that does it
etc etc etc

We speak the same physical language.
You wrote: " while i am looking (using the sea metaphor)

Post by Y.Porat
about the single entity - the single molecule of water
and its properties and behavior mass
energy etc etc "

According to Faraday, Lorenz, Tesla and Dirac the role of "the single
molecule of water"
plays electron. The electric waves are simply the electron waves.
Electron has mass and energy.

Than for me Your photon = electron.
Do you agree?
S*

Y.Porat

2014-08-18 02:39:03 UTC

On Sunday, August 17, 2014 >> radiates)."

Post by Y.Porat
=======================
thanks !!
but we have a communication problem (:-)
we dont speak the same ''physical language ''!!
you are actually dealing with ** huge bundle of photons !!
THAT MAKES SORT OF A WAVE something like a wave of water in the sea !!
that is actually composed of a huge number
of water molecules
while i am looking (using the sea metaphor)
about the single entity - the single molecule of water
and its properties and behavior mass
energy etc etc
------------------------
so my single photon energy is ways
much less than defined by the common formula
for the ''single photon energy ''
my understanding and finding is that the real single phootn energy
has nothing to do with one second definition
mind you
E=hf is just **one** second defined
or an integer multiplier of it
my finding is that
photons and photon energy is defined by the following formula
==============================
E photon minimum = hf times n
while
0 >n <<<<< 1.00000 !!
====================================
i was looking for the real SINGLE PHOTON
ie
the real single photon is done in much much less tha one second !!
as defined above qualitatively
later i equated that n to
The scalr part of Planck time
why ?
because that time is the smallest laps of time we know
in physics
so
you get for the smallest photon energy ....
dont be shocked
about exp -79 joule !!!
it means that the real single photon
will never be detected !!
not to mansion measured !!!
so that is why may be practically it is zero
but not theoretically
i proved as wellthat
THE PHOTON HAS MASS - THE ONLY MASS
(IE NOT RELATIVISTIC MASS - JUST MASS
about exp -90Kilogram !!!
the mass (only mass )
of the photon is hidden in the
h constant of Planck !!
and that is a revolution in physics
because
no more virtual particles ""without mas""
etc etc
no Higgs that has to give mass to particles
because it is the energy that does it
etc etc etc

We speak the same physical language.
You wrote: " while i am looking (using the sea metaphor)

Post by Y.Porat
about the single entity - the single molecule of water
and its properties and behavior mass
energy etc etc "

According to Faraday, Lorenz, Tesla and Dirac the role of "the single
molecule of water"
plays electron. The electric waves are simply the electron waves.
Electron has mass and energy.
Than for me Your photon = electron.
Do you agree?
S*

============================
No Sir
you still dont get me
my basic photon unit is about exp-80
smaller than the electron !!!
while mind you
it is a particle that makes the photon
and photon energy
ie
it is fantastically smaller than the electron !!
and mind you
it is not the common understanding !!
the ''common understanding is that the
photon is MASS -LESS''
my findings are that he
mass of the single photon is
about exp -90 kilogram (again
exp -90 KILOGRAM the only mass that exist
ie not ''relativistic mass = but just mass!!
that is not the common 'understanding
it is revolutionary new !
(revolutionary and yet extremely surprising simple)
2
see the Y Circlon idea at
the appendix )of my ('home made ' site
a very basic particle that moves **naturally** in a curved path
please note that 'moves naturally '
i a curved path
that should replace the 'curved space' guess
my circlon started as well as an INTUITIVE guess
but as time pass along years ago ) becomes more and more justifying itself

TIA
Y.Porat
============================

j***@specsol.spam.sux.com

2014-08-16 17:03:21 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

Like Jim said, it depends on how long you are prepared to wait. Below 100Hz
is used for communication with submarines. Below 20Hz is used for sensing
applications. Frequencies of a few hertz have been detected from natural
sources. You can go much lower than that for artificial sources (and then
you're usually in the near-field and some people will say that near-field
isn't "radiation", so it does depend somewhat on what you mean by
"radiation").

"Below 100Hz is used for communication with submarines. Below 20Hz is used
for sensing applications. Frequencies of a few hertz have been detected from
natural sources".
The above are the radio waves.
Could you tell us what is the lowest detectable frequency of
electromagnetic INDUCTION?
S*

The answer is the same.

--
Jim Pennino

snoben

2014-08-16 17:59:28 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

Like Jim said, it depends on how long you are prepared to wait. Below 100Hz
is used for communication with submarines. Below 20Hz is used for sensing
applications. Frequencies of a few hertz have been detected from natural
sources. You can go much lower than that for artificial sources (and then
you're usually in the near-field and some people will say that near-field
isn't "radiation", so it does depend somewhat on what you mean by
"radiation").

"Below 100Hz is used for communication with submarines. Below 20Hz is used
for sensing applications. Frequencies of a few hertz have been detected from
natural sources".
The above are the radio waves.
Could you tell us what is the lowest detectable frequency of
electromagnetic INDUCTION?
S*

depends on how big your induction coil is, how well isolated it is
from cities, and how well insulated it is to E field radiation.

j***@specsol.spam.sux.com

2014-08-16 21:00:39 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

Like Jim said, it depends on how long you are prepared to wait. Below 100Hz
is used for communication with submarines. Below 20Hz is used for sensing
applications. Frequencies of a few hertz have been detected from natural
sources. You can go much lower than that for artificial sources (and then
you're usually in the near-field and some people will say that near-field
isn't "radiation", so it does depend somewhat on what you mean by
"radiation").

"Below 100Hz is used for communication with submarines. Below 20Hz is used
for sensing applications. Frequencies of a few hertz have been detected from
natural sources".
The above are the radio waves.
Could you tell us what is the lowest detectable frequency of
electromagnetic INDUCTION?
S*

depends on how big your induction coil is, how well isolated it is
from cities, and how well insulated it is to E field radiation.

Nope, a single turn loop of wire will do, though it won't be very sensitive.

--
Jim Pennino

Freda Gabriel

2014-08-18 02:25:11 UTC

Post by szczepan bialek
Could you tell us what is the lowest detectable frequency of
electromagnetic INDUCTION?
S*

depends on how big your induction coil is, how well isolated it is
from cities, and how well insulated it is to E field radiation.

Nope, a single turn loop of wire will do, though it won't be very sensitive.

nope, it is drownded out in static noise of e field below 10,000 hz,
need special antenna, but you can make one at home. Standard HAM stuff

it is not sensitive, because of the efield noise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_low_frequency

j***@specsol.spam.sux.com

2014-08-18 03:27:37 UTC

Post by Freda Gabriel

Post by szczepan bialek
Could you tell us what is the lowest detectable frequency of
electromagnetic INDUCTION?
S*

depends on how big your induction coil is, how well isolated it is
from cities, and how well insulated it is to E field radiation.

Nope, a single turn loop of wire will do, though it won't be very sensitive.

nope, it is drownded out in static noise of e field below 10,000 hz,
need special antenna, but you can make one at home. Standard HAM stuff
it is not sensitive, because of the efield noise.

It is not sensitive because it is only one turn and the sensitivity is
directly proportional to the number of turns.

Eliminating the E field is trivially done by putting the coil inside of
a conductive loop with a small slit in the loop, i.e. the sheild is not
electrically continuous.

And there is nothing special about such antennas; been made for over
a century now.

--
Jim Pennino

Frank Colessi

2014-08-16 21:50:25 UTC

Post by szczepan bialek
Could you tell us what is the lowest detectable frequency of
electromagnetic INDUCTION?

Here is a write up of homebrew ELF receiving antennas:

http://www.vlf.it/inductor/inductor.htm

The nice thing about ELF circuits is that they can be very
simple with no concern for parasitic inductance/capacitance.
Note the use of cheap and low spec TL072 op amps in the
amplifier/filter.

Mahipal

2014-08-16 01:11:32 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

j***@specsol.spam.sux.com

2014-08-16 01:19:55 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

Nope, 0+ would be the more conventional notation.

--
Jim Pennino

Lord Androcles

2014-08-16 02:13:45 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

0.
================================================
Nice reply, Miple, but consider negative numbers.
Suppose you are moving away from a 100 MHz radio transmitter at the same
speed as the radiation, so v = c...
Then by Doppler
f' = 100 MHz * (c-v)/c = 0, as you say.
But now suppose v = 2c. The radio broadcast is out there in front of you,
f' = 100 MHz * (c-2c)/c = -100MHz,
your antenna and radio detects it but the broadcast is running backwards.

-- The Reverend Lord Androcles, Archbishop of Ballistic Light.

Mahipal

2014-08-16 02:50:50 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

0.
================================================
Nice reply, Miple, but consider negative numbers.

People think it takes nothing for me to dream up nothing. O wait..

It's nice Lord John when somone gets me Me ME. Rare, but nice.

Post by Lord Androcles
Suppose you are moving away from a 100 MHz radio transmitter at the same
speed as the radiation, so v = c...
Then by Doppler
f' = 100 MHz * (c-v)/c = 0, as you say.

Let's pretend only photons move at c too. At least something does.

Post by Lord Androcles
But now suppose v = 2c. The radio broadcast is out there in front of you,
f' = 100 MHz * (c-2c)/c = -100MHz,
your antenna and radio detects it but the broadcast is running
backwards.

Never trust the Math or Mathematicians. Never never NEVER!

Entropy always ...youKnow.

Post by Lord Androcles
-- The Reverend Lord Androcles, Archbishop of Ballistic Light.

I like Miple. At work, they have me as Mihopal on the poster boards!
YouKnow... in case you recognize the typo on his or her name tag?! I
really can't help noticing how little people care for me Me ME as I
walk around in their physical earth. It's me conundrum. I'm intruding.

Enjo(y)... Cheers... Open your M I N D... it is Is IS 3PM somewhere.
--
Mahipal, pronounced "My Pal" or "Maple"... as in Loops, S(y)rup, Wood.

http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/
"If the line between science fiction and science fact
doesn't drive you craz(y), then you're not laughing!"

Lord Androcles

2014-08-16 03:57:23 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

0.
================================================
Nice reply, Miple, but consider negative numbers.

People think it takes nothing for me to dream up nothing. O wait..

It's nice Lord John when somone gets me Me ME. Rare, but nice.

Post by Lord Androcles
Suppose you are moving away from a 100 MHz radio transmitter at the same
speed as the radiation, so v = c...
Then by Doppler
f' = 100 MHz * (c-v)/c = 0, as you say.

Let's pretend only photons move at c too. At least something does.

===========================================================
Why pretend? Hadrons go both ways in the LHC so that each has speed 2c in
the frame of the other.

Never trust the Math or Mathematicians. Never never NEVER!

Entropy always ...youKnow.
==========================================================

No I don't. I particularly detest that cop-out phrase use by nearly all
sports personalities who can't express themselves in any way except kicking,
batting or throwing a ball. If I knew I wouldn't need to watch the news on
TV, so don't tell me I know when I don't. Entropy always what?

-- The Reverend Lord Androcles, Archbishop of Ballistic Light.
(H. God Wilson thinks he's the God of Ballistic Light and can tell it what
to do.)

S***@hotmail.com

2014-08-16 19:10:17 UTC

hadrons are not waves per se
;photons are not 0-d massless every things

Mahipal

2014-08-16 19:45:13 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

0.
================================================
Nice reply, Miple, but consider negative numbers.

People think it takes nothing for me to dream up nothing. O wait..
It's nice Lord John when somone gets me Me ME. Rare, but nice.

Post by Lord Androcles
Suppose you are moving away from a 100 MHz radio transmitter at the same
speed as the radiation, so v = c...
Then by Doppler
f' = 100 MHz * (c-v)/c = 0, as you say.

Let's pretend only photons move at c too. At least something does.
===========================================================
Why pretend? Hadrons go both ways in the LHC so that each has speed 2c in
the frame of the other.

It's brainfed to us that thinking 2c relative speeds upsets The OneStone.
One should try hard not to hurt his feelings, his cigar might smoke.

Never trust the Math or Mathematicians. Never never NEVER!
Entropy always ...youKnow.
==========================================================
No I don't. I particularly detest that cop-out phrase use by nearly all
sports personalities who can't express themselves in any way except kicking,
batting or throwing a ball. If I knew I wouldn't need to watch the news on
TV, so don't tell me I know when I don't. Entropy always what?

Entropy leads to the |meforce>. Provocative Happ(y) now Now NOW?!

Post by Mahipal
-- The Reverend Lord Androcles, Archbishop of Ballistic Light.
(H. God Wilson thinks he's the God of Ballistic Light and can tell it what
to do.)

Entropy, the big S in the Sk(y).
I fight Entropy and Entrop(y) always wins...
The Entrop(y) my friend... is blowing in the wind...

So a couple of days ago, these five in-formation planes are flying
over NYC. During my allowed free for walk at lunch time. Writing out
sequences of words over me dizzying head. Then the letters all drifted
into clouds, too windy for words. I did not hear a single word that
into the atmosphere they so sprayed. Might as well have tuned to BBC.

Entropy always, like everyone's Xwife's weight, increases.

But you knew that. Look Lord John, I art a Tennis Enthusiast. I love
the Roger! Other sports too, but what a yawn they all are, by
comparison. Anyway, no royalty checks off my back for being honest. In
a better world, I would've been a Tennis Pla(y)er. A Poet Pl(a)ying
Tennis. Alas... I'm... amongst the wreteched, the poor, the forgotten,
the ignored, the shoved under the Bus bus BUS sect... "If it doesn't
hurt enough yet, just let us Us US know. We have ways of making Pain."

Perhaps I exaggerate... perhaps I'm Entroprising?! Entroprenureal?!
Perhaps Words are not worth Math that is so Real real REAL? Yawn...

Negative frequencies? I do get bad vibes everywhere I walk. But I
digress... turn the other cheek... there's a darker road to walk, just
turn the corner...

I can not even phantom such oscillations. Broadcasts running
backwards? Well, of course, that explains the quality of every thing
on TV. Ever. He he...

Dear John Letter... why must you ask questions of me? I am neither a
student any longer, check my IRS tax forms, nor do I give a sHit how
Education has evolved since 1961. Total Bull+IPMM+sHit=...youKNow.

-- Mahipal 'Just write what you would like me to know. Just say it.'

Lord Androcles

2014-08-16 22:31:19 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

0.
================================================
Nice reply, Miple, but consider negative numbers.

People think it takes nothing for me to dream up nothing. O wait..
It's nice Lord John when somone gets me Me ME. Rare, but nice.

Post by Lord Androcles
Suppose you are moving away from a 100 MHz radio transmitter at the same
speed as the radiation, so v = c...
Then by Doppler
f' = 100 MHz * (c-v)/c = 0, as you say.

Let's pretend only photons move at c too. At least something does.
===========================================================
Why pretend? Hadrons go both ways in the LHC so that each has speed 2c in
the frame of the other.

It's brainfed to us that thinking 2c relative speeds upsets The OneStone.
One should try hard not to hurt his feelings, his cigar might smoke.
=================================================================
http://tinyurl.com/pfcy7yd

“I believe that pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective
judgement in all human affairs.”
-Albert Einstein, 1950

Never trust the Math or Mathematicians. Never never NEVER!
Entropy always ...youKnow.
==========================================================
No I don't. I particularly detest that cop-out phrase use by nearly all
sports personalities who can't express themselves in any way except kicking,
batting or throwing a ball. If I knew I wouldn't need to watch the news on
TV, so don't tell me I know when I don't. Entropy always what?

Entropy leads to the |meforce>. Provocative Happ(y) now Now NOW?!

Post by Mahipal
-- The Reverend Lord Androcles, Archbishop of Ballistic Light.
(H. God Wilson thinks he's the God of Ballistic Light and can tell it what
to do.)

-- The Reverend Lord Androcles, Archbishop of Ballistic Light.

Mahipal

2014-08-17 14:04:38 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

0.
================================================
Nice reply, Miple, but consider negative numbers.

People think it takes nothing for me to dream up nothing. O wait..
It's nice Lord John when somone gets me Me ME. Rare, but nice.

Post by Lord Androcles
Suppose you are moving away from a 100 MHz radio transmitter at the same
speed as the radiation, so v = c...
Then by Doppler
f' = 100 MHz * (c-v)/c = 0, as you say.

Let's pretend only photons move at c too. At least something does.
===========================================================
Why pretend? Hadrons go both ways in the LHC so that each has speed 2c in
the frame of the other.

It's brainfed to us that thinking 2c relative speeds upsets The OneStone.
One should try hard not to hurt his feelings, his cigar might smoke.
=================================================================
http://tinyurl.com/pfcy7yd
"I believe that pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective
judgement in all human affairs."
-Albert Einstein, 1950

What if I had written chaulk, chalk, or its GermanEquivalent in place of cigar?

Never trust the Math or Mathematicians. Never never NEVER!
Entropy always ...youKnow.
==========================================================
No I don't. I particularly detest that cop-out phrase use by nearly all
sports personalities who can't express themselves in any way except kicking,
batting or throwing a ball. If I knew I wouldn't need to watch the news on
TV, so don't tell me I know when I don't. Entropy always what?

Entropy leads to the |meforce>. Provocative Happ(y) now Now NOW?!

Post by Mahipal
-- The Reverend Lord Androcles, Archbishop of Ballistic Light.
(H. God Wilson thinks he's the God of Ballistic Light and can tell it what
to do.)

Entropy, the big S in the Sk(y).
I fight Entropy and Entrop(y) always wins...
The Entrop(y) my friend... is blowing in the wind...
So a couple of days ago, these five in-formation planes are flying
over NYC. During my allowed free for walk at lunch time. Writing out
sequences of words over me dizzying head. Then the letters all drifted
into clouds, too windy for words. I did not hear a single word that
into the atmosphere they so sprayed. Might as well have tuned to BBC.
Entropy always, like everyone's Xwife's weight, increases.
But you knew that. Look Lord John, I art a Tennis Enthusiast. I love
the Roger! Other sports too, but what a yawn they all are, by
comparison. Anyway, no royalty checks off my back for being honest. In
a better world, I would've been a Tennis Pla(y)er. A Poet Pl(a)ying
Tennis. Alas... I'm... amongst the wreteched, the poor, the forgotten,
the ignored, the shoved under the Bus bus BUS sect... "If it doesn't
hurt enough yet, just let us Us US know. We have ways of making Pain."
Perhaps I exaggerate... perhaps I'm Entroprising?! Entroprenureal?!
Perhaps Words are not worth Math that is so Real real REAL? Yawn...
Negative frequencies? I do get bad vibes everywhere I walk. But I
digress... turn the other cheek... there's a darker road to walk, just
turn the corner...
I can not even phantom such oscillations. Broadcasts running
backwards? Well, of course, that explains the quality of every thing
on TV. Ever. He he...
Dear John Letter... why must you ask questions of me? I am neither a
student any longer, check my IRS tax forms, nor do I give a sHit how
Education has evolved since 1961. Total Bull+IPMM+sHit=...youKNow.
-- Mahipal 'Just write what you would like me to know. Just say it.'
http://youtu.be/AM_7D0YC2xo
-- The Reverend Lord Androcles, Archbishop of Ballistic Light.

POP, MOM, SIS, BUB, NOON, BOOB, ..., MUM is the Word Word WORD.
Nice, curiously weird link.

-- Mahipal 'Go back, the Music Is Reversible, ELO, Fire on High.'

Lord Androcles

2014-08-17 16:14:09 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

0.
================================================
Nice reply, Miple, but consider negative numbers.

People think it takes nothing for me to dream up nothing. O wait..
It's nice Lord John when somone gets me Me ME. Rare, but nice.

Post by Lord Androcles
Suppose you are moving away from a 100 MHz radio transmitter at the same
speed as the radiation, so v = c...
Then by Doppler
f' = 100 MHz * (c-v)/c = 0, as you say.

Let's pretend only photons move at c too. At least something does.
===========================================================
Why pretend? Hadrons go both ways in the LHC so that each has speed 2c in
the frame of the other.

It's brainfed to us that thinking 2c relative speeds upsets The OneStone.
One should try hard not to hurt his feelings, his cigar might smoke.
=================================================================
http://tinyurl.com/pfcy7yd
"I believe that pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective
judgement in all human affairs."
-Albert Einstein, 1950

What if I had written chaulk, chalk, or its GermanEquivalent in place of
cigar?
======================
One should try hard not to hurt his feelings, his caulk might smoke.

Never trust the Math or Mathematicians. Never never NEVER!
Entropy always ...youKnow.
==========================================================
No I don't. I particularly detest that cop-out phrase use by nearly all
sports personalities who can't express themselves in any way except kicking,
batting or throwing a ball. If I knew I wouldn't need to watch the news on
TV, so don't tell me I know when I don't. Entropy always what?

Entropy leads to the |meforce>. Provocative Happ(y) now Now NOW?!

Post by Mahipal
-- The Reverend Lord Androcles, Archbishop of Ballistic Light.
(H. God Wilson thinks he's the God of Ballistic Light and can tell it what
to do.)

Entropy, the big S in the Sk(y).
I fight Entropy and Entrop(y) always wins...
The Entrop(y) my friend... is blowing in the wind...
So a couple of days ago, these five in-formation planes are flying
over NYC. During my allowed free for walk at lunch time. Writing out
sequences of words over me dizzying head. Then the letters all drifted
into clouds, too windy for words. I did not hear a single word that
into the atmosphere they so sprayed. Might as well have tuned to BBC.
Entropy always, like everyone's Xwife's weight, increases.
But you knew that. Look Lord John, I art a Tennis Enthusiast. I love
the Roger! Other sports too, but what a yawn they all are, by
comparison. Anyway, no royalty checks off my back for being honest. In
a better world, I would've been a Tennis Pla(y)er. A Poet Pl(a)ying
Tennis. Alas... I'm... amongst the wreteched, the poor, the forgotten,
the ignored, the shoved under the Bus bus BUS sect... "If it doesn't
hurt enough yet, just let us Us US know. We have ways of making Pain."
Perhaps I exaggerate... perhaps I'm Entroprising?! Entroprenureal?!
Perhaps Words are not worth Math that is so Real real REAL? Yawn...
Negative frequencies? I do get bad vibes everywhere I walk. But I
digress... turn the other cheek... there's a darker road to walk, just
turn the corner...
I can not even phantom such oscillations. Broadcasts running
backwards? Well, of course, that explains the quality of every thing
on TV. Ever. He he...
Dear John Letter... why must you ask questions of me? I am neither a
student any longer, check my IRS tax forms, nor do I give a sHit how
Education has evolved since 1961. Total Bull+IPMM+sHit=...youKNow.
-- Mahipal 'Just write what you would like me to know. Just say it.'
http://youtu.be/AM_7D0YC2xo
-- The Reverend Lord Androcles, Archbishop of Ballistic Light.

POP, MOM, SIS, BUB, NOON, BOOB, ..., MUM is the Word Word WORD.
Nice, curiously weird link.

-- Mahipal 'Go back, the Music Is Reversible, ELO, Fire on High.'

Mahipal

2014-08-18 02:01:28 UTC

[trim]

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

0.
================================================
Nice reply, Miple, but consider negative numbers.

People think it takes nothing for me to dream up nothing. O wait..
It's nice Lord John when somone gets me Me ME. Rare, but nice.

Post by Lord Androcles
Suppose you are moving away from a 100 MHz radio transmitter at the same
speed as the radiation, so v = c...
Then by Doppler
f' = 100 MHz * (c-v)/c = 0, as you say.

Let's pretend only photons move at c too. At least something does.
===========================================================
Why pretend? Hadrons go both ways in the LHC so that each has speed 2c in
the frame of the other.

It's brainfed to us that thinking 2c relative speeds upsets The OneStone.
One should try hard not to hurt his feelings, his cigar might smoke.
=================================================================
http://tinyurl.com/pfcy7yd
"I believe that pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective
judgement in all human affairs."
-Albert Einstein, 1950

What if I had written chaulk, chalk, or its GermanEquivalent in place of cigar?
======================
One should try hard not to hurt his feelings, his caulk might smoke.

He he... https://www.google.com/search?q=cigar+cutters

It's only Tools... TOOLS are all I have...
Bee Gees brought to you by Legendary DanSingh.
You should be Dan... Sing... yeah...

-- Mahipal 'Go back, the Music Is Reversible, ELO, Time, not so much.'

Lord Androcles

2014-08-18 04:45:03 UTC

[trim]

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

0.
================================================
Nice reply, Miple, but consider negative numbers.

People think it takes nothing for me to dream up nothing. O wait..
It's nice Lord John when somone gets me Me ME. Rare, but nice.

Post by Lord Androcles
Suppose you are moving away from a 100 MHz radio transmitter at the same
speed as the radiation, so v = c...
Then by Doppler
f' = 100 MHz * (c-v)/c = 0, as you say.

Let's pretend only photons move at c too. At least something does.
===========================================================
Why pretend? Hadrons go both ways in the LHC so that each has speed 2c in
the frame of the other.

It's brainfed to us that thinking 2c relative speeds upsets The OneStone.
One should try hard not to hurt his feelings, his cigar might smoke.
=================================================================
http://tinyurl.com/pfcy7yd
"I believe that pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective
judgement in all human affairs."
-Albert Einstein, 1950

What if I had written chaulk, chalk, or its GermanEquivalent in place of cigar?
======================
One should try hard not to hurt his feelings, his caulk might smoke.

He he... https://www.google.com/search?q=cigar+cutters
===================================================
French cigar cutter for divorcees: http://tinyurl.com/pm4lxfj

-- The Reverend Lord Androcles, Archbishop of Ballistic Light.

It's only Tools... TOOLS are all I have...
Bee Gees brought to you by Legendary DanSingh.
You should be Dan... Sing... yeah...

-- Mahipal 'Go back, the Music Is Reversible, ELO, Time, not so much.'

j***@hotmail.com

2014-08-17 10:03:55 UTC

Lord Androcles wrote...

....but consider negative numbers. Suppose you are moving away
from a 100 MHz radio transmitter at the same speed as the radiation, so v = c...
Then by Doppler f' = 100 MHz * (c-v)/c = 0, as you say. But now suppose v = 2c.
The radio broadcast is out there in front of you, f' = 100 MHz * (c-2c)/c = -100MHz,
your antenna and radio detects it but the broadcast is running backwards.

And lets say ones v was greater than 2c ,but, v was changing to less than 2c.
( relative to the source),...
Then the broadcast would be "heard" only briefly as a burst
of sound/ static. As the narrow broadcast band of 100 MHz comes into and
then out of the reception range of 100MHz.

We can already measure these types of reverse emr as you have described,
and as I have elaborated on above.
They are called,...gammaraybursts.

Lord Androcles

2014-08-16 02:01:40 UTC

"Peter" wrote in message news:fcc7295e-92bf-484f-b680-***@googlegroups.com...

Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

==================================================================
Pls. how long is a piece of string?

-- The Reverend Lord Androcles, Archbishop of Ballistic Light.
(H. God Wilson thinks he's the God of Ballistic Light and can tell it what
to do.)

Gerhard Schaefer

2014-08-16 09:44:15 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?
==================================================================
Pls. how long is a piece of string?

Much longer than a piece of wood.

But the EM question makes not much sense. Once a frequency is produced it
must be also detectable.

Brad Guth

2014-08-16 19:49:38 UTC

Post by Peter
Pls. what is the lowest detectable frequency of electromagnetic radiation?

Gravity, which hasn't hardly changed from the get-go as of 14 billion years ago.

S***@hotmail.com

2014-08-18 17:18:34 UTC