Post by James McGinn Post by firstname.lastname@example.org
... there isn't much I can do for you.
As far as I can see, there isn't much you can for anyone...
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simple experimental evidence that you apparently refuse to
I didn't dispute the evidence, moron.
Well, yes, you did, dumbfuck...
I disputed the interpretation and the dimwittedness of only
allowing for one process to explain the upward movement of
moist air, you fucking mental retard.
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... Why don't you perform
this experiment yourself? If you get the same result, how
would you explain it?
Answer the fucking questions, dumbfuck. You have NEVER
answered a direct question, you fucking crank. Now is the time.
Due to it containing microdroplets that are large enough to be
visible to the naked eye, indisputably clouds are heavier than
the surrounding drier air. Yet they don't drop out of the sky
as the convection model predicts. So there must be something
holding them up. Right? So it's not #1 convection. It
certainly isn't #2 aerodynamics, and it couldn't be #4 winds.
The only thing left is electricity, #3. Electricity--a
consequence of the solar wind--is what allows clouds to defy
gravity and levitate. Electricity explains how heavier
microdroplets and not steam evaporates off the surface of water.
And the fact that the solar wind that delivers this electricity
comes down from above ecxplains why an inverted bottle will not
produce evaporation while a bottle that is right side up will.
Good points, McGinn. True, as clouds are more dense than the surrounding air why do they not fall down instead of floating high up?
Very important point, really!
Well, to understand this we need to look at related phenomena.
Like, say, surface tension.
One of the experiments anyone can do is to place a razor blade on still water, very carefully.
When done carefully, it will float.
Why should it, as metal is more dense than water?
The school-level answer is, that water surface acts as a stretched skin, like some elastic, so in a sense it is acting like a solid surface preventing the sinking of the razor. When this surface is broken then the heavier body will not float any more.
Possibly, a similar thing is happening with clouds, although here we are talking of gases and not liquids as in surface tension. In which case, we can theorise that the cohesion between the air atoms is more than the adhesion of the cloud water upon them. In other words, the air pushes the cloud away.
Certainly surface tension is an electric phenomenon - the surface atoms are pulled down by the below-surface atoms, with electric forces, so there is a pressure differential causing the stretching. As much pressure from above, that will be less than this differential, will cause floation.
I don't see where "solar wind" comes into this, to create electrical attractions.
But simpler explanations are also there, relating to large scale pressure differentials between the bottom of the cloud and the top of the cloud. The air
above the cloud is less dense, the air below the cloud more dense, so there is an overall upward pressure. This sort-of relates to convection, though.
However your point about water below 100degC in gaseous state being necessarily mono-molecular, is controversial. I would think that any wet shoe, when left to dry, will do so when some water is kicked out of it by some air molecule with kinetic impact. If it pleases you, that momentary contact may raise the local temperature beyond 100degC no matter what the ambient may be, so that way your theory may still hold for then all evaporation is steamy, for steam as you say has to be monomolecular. These monomolecules rise high, as per our observation of the ways of Mother Nature, in the rare spaces high above where they get more concentration as the heavier atoms are below them. In such high concentration, they unite to form multi-molecules, forming clouds, etc.